User talk:KnightMiner

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Welcome to the wiki d00d :3 -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 11:31, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! KnightMiner 14:55, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Shapeless[edit source]

Please always do "shapeless=true" instead of "shapeless=1". It's a convention of sorts. Don't worry about any of your older articles, I fixed those already. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 00:48, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Alright, though out of curiosity, is there any specific reason for this practice? Not a lot of other templates have a preference for "true", most notably {{O}} (and its related parser) KnightMiner 04:11, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
At some point we made the decision to have it be shapeless=true. I don't remember why. I just remember we decided to have that be the way. 🐇Retep998🐇🐰Bunny Overlord🐰 12:26, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
From what I remember, it was so you could still have shapeless=false, despite the fact that was the default anyway. Chocohead NagEditsStaff 12:55, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
English booleans are much easier to remember for users than integer booleans. -- SatanicSantaFTB Wiki Admin 04:37, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
1, though filling it with "just anything at all" is easier to remember than an exact value of "true", which is what most parameters tend to check anyways (just being set). Also, if this template is enforcing "true", why aren't most others? Removing the restriction would allow users to do both "true" or "1" based on which they find easier, with no disadvantage in function or markup. KnightMiner 21:35, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
if the other templates don't use true, I think the staff may need to talk about either changing them or changing the crafting table. Retep998 Xbony2 Chocohead PaladinAHOne what do y'all think? -- SatanicSantaFTB Wiki Admin 15:12, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
{{O}} doesn't the same way {{G}} doesn't, they're really old historic templates and we could never be bothered to change everything to what it should've been. The adding of shapeless was much later, and had no effect on pre-existing crafting grids, so it didn't matter as such. If a template doesn't enforce true, then it's either too old or used so infrequently no one's noticed. Chocohead NagEditsStaff 17:51, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
^ -Xbony2 (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
The only other template I can think of that has a shapeless/shaped state is {{Cg/Chemical Synthesizer}}, and I built it after the "shapeless=true" convention was established. (I think I just copied the code from Cg/Crafting Table for it.) This being said, it does not enforce =true; if the parameter is set at all it will return shapeless. I don't think enforcing =true would matter that much because the shapeless parameter wouldn't even get set unless it needed to be, but the =true convention should be held. -PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 22:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I don't particularly care one way or the other. 🐇Retep998🐇🐰Bunny Overlord🐰 02:47, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Chisel[edit source]

I don't think we should merge the Chisel articles, neither the mods nor the items. -- SatanicSantaFTB Wiki Admin 04:41, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I was planning on proposing it before taking action, but in any case: any specific reason you disagree? I agree the main mod articles shouldn'y be merged, but the blocks/items between the mods are all completely identical (as each version just started with the latest version of the last one). I have even switched versions of Chisel once with no notable changes, so I don't see any reason to keep each version's items separate as we would just end up multiple identical articles for each chisel version (and in the case of later changes, just add a note saying it was not in the earlier version).
As for the tiers, why completely separately describe the iron, obsidian, and diamond chisel? They are all also interchangeable except for durability, leading to any changes in later updates require changing all three articles and leaving the users of the wiki a bit inconvenienced with needing to read three articles containing the exact same information. KnightMiner 21:33, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Having 5 separate Chisel mod-documentations (for lack of a better word) is a bit silly for me as well. However, I do think the items should be separated, since the obsidian/diamond chisel are only in the later versions and noting all of it in one article would just be clunky. -Xbony2 (talk) 21:52, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
I think the different mod and item articles should not be merged due to the more technical changes between them, as well as differences in authors and such that would be very, as Xbony put it, clunky. The blocks might be good to merge together, however, since all Chisel blocks are just decoration. Though, we would need to decide on an actual format for the articles to follow, since they would be "special". -- SatanicSantaFTB Wiki Admin 04:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)